It's late night in Iraq. Don't they sleep at all?

This is a great site and the first place I go to now for Iraq news. Thanks for all your hard work.

I've got source code for a PHP RSS reader tweaked to look like Agonist, if anyone wants it. URL below.

http://www.nathanostgard.com/agonist/

Hard to sleep when you're getting shot at.

Here is a list of named US casualties, POWs, MIAs from AP as of about 1:30 EST today. Story says that not all are listed.

I heard stories of going on 60+ hrs without sleep sometimes. Talk about running off of adrenaline!

Supposedly Amnesty International is saying that the US bombing of Iraqi TV may be against the Geneva Convention:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,922445,00.html

That's a short list, court!

Here's the URL re list of identified casualties, POWs and MIAs. Sorry

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/

actually i think they use meth and stem packs.

i would if i were them anyway.

Update on the Basra column from BBC Notebook:

Southern Iraq :: Clive Myrie :: 1923GMT
A number of vehicles in this Iraqi column of armour have been hit by Coalition jets. The attacks from the air and ground have been going on now for over two hours.
This was after a huge column was seen to be leaving the south-eastern approach roads of Basra heading towards our position down on the Al-Faw peninsula.
Coalition planes are using thermal imaging and night vision so they have an advantage over the Iraqis.

At the moment it would seem the Iraqis are sitting ducks.

You're slipping back into Central Time Zone again.

From Washington Post:

Back at the White House, the official list of allies on the Web site was updated to include Ukraine and Angola. Angola's appearance on the list was a return engagement; it was on the original list last week but disappeared four days ago. But in a new complication for the coalition, the Solomon Islands has asked to be removed from the list."

Damn shame about the Solomons. Well, at least our aircraft don't have to fly around Angola to supply the forces. Why does the Administration bother with this transparent public relations effort? Is it managed by Tori Clarke's wardrobe advisor?

Can anyone chime in with an accurate and up-to-date weather report for the areas in Iraq? Have the sandstorms subsided? Do we have the ability to get some air cover back onto the fields of battle? 1,000 vehicles bearing down on central Iraq and a 100 to the south from Basra would sound a lot less ominous if we hade a healthy contingent of A-10's and gunships in the air to dissuade them.

lb

"actually i think they use meth and stem packs."

I think those are Sean-Paul's favorite snack foods sright now.

hey Sean-Paul, your on CST, not EST....

hey, grate work tho!

aaron

http://www.thefakenews.com/geraldo.jpg

My word! I don't know how you're doing it, but I'm impressed and thankful for the info condensation.

Maybe Clonaid is more successful than we thought.

This is one of the best stories I have read from and embed:
Some say that's because we didn't knock out the power stations and get rid of the city lights that illuminated our aircraft and made them easier targets. Others say it's because we rushed too much and should have allowed the Air Force or armored units to soften up the target area.
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/032603_news_martin.shtml

Almost everyone in this unit feels the military is attempting to be too surgical in avoiding civilian casualties and that we are paying for that with more lives lost.

An interesting story at http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,922217,00.html.
Title: Bush fiddles with economy while Baghdad burns
Intro: Could a faltering dollar and global rebellion against its values presage the decline, and eventual fall, of the American empire, asks Mark Tran
It talks about a financial research company called 'Independent Strategy' and its current thoughts on US dollar and US economy.

Still on Central time.

Broadcasting my ignorance: I get the gist but what exactly are "meth and stem packs"?

Geraldo has been with FOX for quite a while now. I think he's in Afghanistan at the moment.

Jim: In my view, if the US military is attempting to avoid civilian casualties then I would encourage it. It can not be said with full certainty whether doing this leads to higher loss of US troops. If it does, then it is unfortunate but the benefits of being surgical and avoiding civilian casualties would outweigh the negatives.

Is aljazeera.net being bolcked, dos'ed, or just too busy?

can anyone connect?

Is there an easy way to find the Agonist's situational map?

Keep up the great work!

SM

DOSed. Here >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030326/ap_on_hi_te/war_al_jazeera_web_5

Geraldo and Fox. Now, that's a match the gods designed.

Acquaintance of mine does opinion for the Washington Post, ran into Geraldo years ago when they were both covering a story in New York. Said he went home to his girlfriend and told her, "No human being could be a bigger asshole than the guy I met today." Now, my aquaintance has different opinion entirely: "I was so wrong. I mean, look at how much bigger an asshole he is now."

Coalition plays the Shia Card

Some of my friends from highschool joined up, shortly before graduation. I had grown distant with them over the years and as a result lost touch with them shortly after we left school.Thanks for the Causaulty list. I looked on it for there names. Not there thank god. What I really want to know is where they are; are they in the gulf? what units are they with? If any one has any ideas how I could track down what unit they are in I would be greatfull.

Also this site is awesome. Thanks for the work.

Here we go...

Islam Online: "Apocalyptic Scene in Baghdad":

http://www.islam-online.net/english/News/2003-03/26/article12.shtml

i remember seeing a news report on troopers using stimulants to stay awake.
specially piolts.

and sometimes becoming addcited.

http://www.agonist.org/annex/sitmap

http://www.agonist.org/annex/sitmap

MASK - not sure that you CAN track down what units/etc yer friends are in. I'd try finding their folks and call them up, I'm sure they'd know.

best,
aaron

Hey, I like the text feed from agonist.imaginot.com since it is much faster. however, there is no link to the comments.

Thanks for the great work!

The BBC's first report of that armored column coming out of Basra was 8PM local time (after dark). The reporter makes one reference to a "fire fight," but doesn't elaborate on how much gunfire was coming from the "armored column."

Since it was dark in Iraq at that time, I wonder if our thermal imaging can distinguish between hostile armored vehicles and a caravan of fleeing civilian vehicles.

I hope I am being paranoid about this, because those vehicles will be burning hulks by morning and their occupants mostly dead.

send in the CHI/LA/Philly police into Basra they have oodles of experience with urban combat against irregular troops

;-)

-john

I'd like to see if the Islam Online site will print a retraction if it turns out this was an Iraqi explosion...I'm also looking for mention of the two Iraqi missiles that have landed in Iran.

THANK YOU for this site.

in regards to stimulants

wouldn't that also make the user PARANOID and experience halucinations?
that wouldn't be good in war.

I don't think the govt. would EVER do that.

Sean-Paul, I've been reading your website for a week now and I realized I've neglected to thank you. You're providing a fantastic service for those of us who like the up-to-date unslanted details. Thank you and much appreciation from San Francisco!

I wonder if our thermal imaging can distinguish between hostile armored vehicles and a caravan of fleeing civilian vehicles.

The night vision equipment would allow pilots and ground forces to identify what kind of equipment it is/was.

Why Are U.S. Troops Wearing Dark-Green Camouflage?

"According to published reports, the Pentagon simply goofed by not anticipating the demand for sand-colored desert fatigues, formally known as battle-dress uniforms. When Army and Marine units were preparing for deployment, several discovered that they lacked enough desert BDUs to outfit each soldier with the requisite three outfits. "

A few pictures from Iraq via the Arabnews. Some are not pretty, but they all look more like war then anything I've seen in the US media.

Interesting Arabnews comparison of CNN and Jazeera. Guess which wins.

Foo.."The Shia card":

Your link is a hot find!

If true, thought, the problem is that U.S. is playing with fire.

See March 26 MEMRI report No. 128,

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA12803

in the section headed

"B. Fear of Losing Shi`ite Primacy Should the Iraqi Regime Change"

BUT IMPORTANT P.S. ON LINKS--better to copy & paste the address than put a live link. If you put a live link, it takes away from Sean-Paul's bandwith, plus we then get it only in this window and can't get back to the comments.

Mask-

If your friends are Marines stationed at Camp Pendleton, you can call(760) 725-5171 from 8-4 PST. Good luck.

Soldiers who are sleep-deprived are less effective in combat...especially those in leadership positions. All the drugs in the world won't help this, and may actually make things worse.

The Brits have LOTS of experience with urban warfare in Northern Ireland. I'm sure there's a few of those chaps in Iraq.

An arab "news" site posting a retraction? You've got to be kidding. That's like expecting a western "news" site like Fox posting a retraction.

It *never* happens. They never retract anything -- they only let it languish in their archives.

Has Fox retracted their information about the chemical weapons depot? Not a chance.

Al-jazeera is a pretty good indicator of ... well, nothing.

sorry, this is the link the the CNN/Jazeera comp

hey, another thanks coming from over here. i am curoious, how are you finding out what the bbc will report before they report it? you have really good friends or what??

Mary:

BUT IMPORTANT P.S. ON LINKS--better to copy & paste the address than put a live link. If you put a live link, it takes away from Sean-Paul's bandwith, plus we then get it only in this window and can't get back to the comments.

No, just hold down the key to get a new browser window.

And, no, it doesn't take away from Sean-Paul's bandwidth. It's a *link* to another site. The only badnwidth that's being sucked is the bandwidth on that site.

In regards to stimulants:

Weren't the pilots who bombed and killed the Canadians in Afghanistan on stimulants and didn't they say they were encouraged to take them to stay awake on long flights?

Mary: It's easy to open a live link in another window. Just right-click with your mouse and choose "Open in New Window" (Netscape/Mozilla users can also choose "Open in New Tab").

Sean-Paul you are doing an amazing job and I thank you for that, but I wanted to mention that the Russian delay on the treaty is fairly old news. They delayed that around the beginning of war last week.

Robin:

The Brits have LOTS of experience with urban warfare in Northern Ireland. I'm sure there's a few of those chaps in Iraq.

Yah, I don't think so. The British wanted Belfast intact, and dead white people after a missile don't play too well in England.

Seriously, though, Baghadad will be NOTHING like you've ever seen in Belfast. (As if that needs to be said.)

Whoops --

meant to say: "Hold down the SHIFT key to open a new browser window."

If you prefer a more complicated method, then RIGHT-CLICK on the link and select OPEN IN NEW WINDOW.

Very simple, easy...

Sleep deprivation may be the idea. No matter how good your technology, if you can't sleep, you're screwed. Drugs will help for a while, but after you've been on them for a long time you REALLY crash, or get seriously delusional. Friendly fire, anyone?

Saddam may be figuring the American troops will run out of wakefulness before he runs out of soldiers. That's what you get for running an invasion with a minimum staff. Just think of what it would be like if Rummy had gotten his way and the US had gone in with 60,000 men total.

Mary:

The Shi'ite angle is the most interesting angle of all of this.

Iran seems to me to be divided between the western-hating fundamentalists who are in power, and the young, pro-western population who want reform.

If the Shi'ites in Iraq gain autonomy from this, can Iranian revolution be far behind?

On the other hand, as you point out, it could be we are playing with fire.

Links: I don't see how a link could take away bandwidth, but if that is the preferred method, I will use it.

PS- you can force the link to go to a new windoe by right-clicking it.

A.C.

'Seriously, though, Baghadad will be NOTHING like you've ever seen in Belfast. (As if that needs to be said.)'

Have you ever been in a Belfast or Liverpool pub on a Saturday night? ;-)

Quite the experience, let me tell you!

Has the descent into hell begun already?

The Age (Melbourne)
March 27, 2003 Thursday

The marines . . . have new orders to treat Iraqi civilians, including women and children, as hostile, until proved otherwise.

Marine Lieutenant-Colonel Gerry Smith, in charge of marine artillery battalions, told his troops by radio on Tuesday night that US intelligence had reported that Iraqi soldiers had used women and children, posing as displaced families, to attack US soldiers.

When the families approached US soldiers, men in the group, who were actually soldiers, opened fire, he said.

During Tuesday's storm, the marines were ordered to arrest and send for interrogation any civilians not in their homes.

Le Monde:
09:35

Iran will not permit opposition Shi'a fighters, particulary the El Badr brigade, to cross the frontier into Iraq for combat. ASRII (Supreme Assembly for Islamic Revolution in Iraq) had trained a brigade from 10 t0 20 thousand men strong to combat Saddam Hussein.

http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3462--313400-,00.html

From Reuters, link will open in new window:

""People are terrified," said one, declining to give his name. "They cannot believe the regime may disappear. They (the regime) have planted fear inside the people's hearts.""

In South Iraq, Some Say Saddam Loyalists Stir Fear

I wrote a strange essay about military tactics, entitled A Bridge Too Far. It was partly inspired by a comment on this site, which convinced me I wasn't the only person seeing bad war movie reruns.

Le Monde

A worldwide recession is not impossible if the war continues. Horst Kohler, Director, IMF.

http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3462--314421-,00.html

CNN is reporting that soldiers have found a cache of grenades in an Iraqi school.

Not military acronyms!
This whole army business is getting boring.

Since somebody asked, "meth" refers to methamphetamine. I don't know what "stem packs" refers to, but in this context I would assume it is opioid analgesics that act on the brain stem. (?) The point is, if you're going to be cannon fodder, you might as well be *good* at it. This stuff eventually ruins you but if you are only focusing on getting through a critical period, and need to go without food, sleep, etc., or continue fighting amidst physical and emotional pain, these drugs can be useful.

ON LINKS, all I know is what Sean-Paul posted yesterday, Tuesday, March 25, under "Flash LV" HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT PHOTOS AND TO GO EASY ON THE LINKS:

"4:34 EST Please read the commenting rules. I do not want to shut them down. I try to read, most, if not all of them. Please do not make me do it. Please no photos and go easy on the links."

The marines . . . have new orders to treat Iraqi civilians, including women and children, as hostile, until proved otherwise.

Already in the operation mode of the Israeli forces in Palestine. After one week. In the part of Iraq where the people hate Saddam. That's a nice kind of 'Liberation'. I reread some books and articles on Lebanon, Palestine and Beirut - it seems they are valuable in the next few years...

I could be wrong, but I think the writer meant "stim packs" rather than "stem packs". Just a tpyo.

Le Monde:

Fires raging in Baghdad after new bombs fall.
(23:00 Iraq time)

http://www.lemonde.fr/dh/0,5987,3208--12539764,

ummm, there called stim packs, short for stimulant

Foo:

Yes, but the MEMRI article I refered to...it's so much more complicated and dangerous than just instigating a revolution in Iran. There is a power war going on right now between 2 Shi'ite factions for Iraq after Saddam is gone. One side is the spiritual advisor to Hizbollah, who may return to Najaf. One side is the Iranian mullahs. It's Qum vs. Najaf, Hezoballah involved, assassination attempts, etc., etc. Really just playing with fire.

Thanks for the military acronyms link. In a perverse sense it was a bit of comic relief.

Here is a new term to share -- "the warfighter". Google on "warfighter MOAB". Saw it first in a CBS news article, but the scrubbed it before I could show it to my wife. Down the memory hole...

C'est la guerre
Jim

Yes 'live links' do use the bandwidth from this site for those that are wondering.

Copy/Paste is better.

I hope the Shi'a card plays out better than the Ba'ath card we played in '63 to forestall Communism ... or the Iraq card we played later to forestall radical Shi'a Iran.

"Can't anybody here play this game?"

sorry from last flash but i am at work so can only pop in here and there :)

Americans used biological weapons to exterminate the entire population (making the US the only country who's creation was based on genocide)?

there are a few of us left :)

There is a major battle shaping up 'within hours' with that Iraqi column:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=MGS5FBOH4XFQGCRBAEOCFEY?type=topNews&storyID=2454374

Is the military using Modafinil at all?

Mary:

Could be. I don't know enough about those groups to comment. I do believe Iran will be quite affected by what goes on in Iraq.

I am hoping it is for the good. Those young students there have a lot of courage and are defying their government as much as they can.

"They are some of the best (forces) Saddam has and are indeed a serious threat to the area we are in." - Walter Rogers. Somehow I get the feeling he doesn't understand that an armor battle doesn't make distinctions between correspondents and combatants.

They report this column "streaming from Bagdhad". If the Special RG are the only troops Saddam allows in the city, could this be them?

There are better alternatives to "go pills" (methamphetimines, which have been part of the military diet since Dubya Dubya II). British military flyers took a drug called Provigil during Gulf I, and now that it is legal in the US Pharmacopeia, a lot of US flyers on long sorties from the UK or Diego Garcia undoubtedly keep a vial at hand. Provigil is a more selective drug, with less of the side effects (jitteryness, sleepless nights) of amphetamines. They do create dependance about 2 weeks into the course of medication - I know from personal experience.

Hi,

How many innocent people have actually been hurt by the coalition? There was a question to Gen. Brooks, but he said he did not have info. at that state. I understand. But, do you know given your real-time expertise?

Are Iraqi soliders killing innocent Iraqis and blaming on to US? If yes, then how come this is not document thoroughly? Is there a bias (e.g., BBC)? That is, are there people who simply want US look bad no matter what (e.g., US ultra-left, like Mike Moore).

Ali Karim Bey
http://12oclock.blogspot.com

What happens if 75-100 of those armored vehicles make it through the hell they must be undergoing, and actuall get to Al Faw. Can the British light troops withstand that? Is there any armor in Kuwait that can help or have we left those Marines to fend for themselves?

Provigil is a more selective drug, with less of the side effects (jitteryness, sleepless nights) of amphetamines.

Ah, you answer my question. Provigil is also known as Modafinil. Slate had an article about it here:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2079113/

US ultra-left, like Mike Moore

If Micheal Moore is ultraleft in the US, than you have some serious problems with the political spectre...

Does anyone have a realistic number for % of misses by cruise or other guided missiles? I've seen a failure rate as high as 25% for all smart bombs but have never seen a breakdown for tomahawks. I can't remember the distance from target that was considered a failure.

It's one thing for the pentagon to say "we didn't targetthe market" but if the known failure rate is high enough they're flirting with reckless endangerment when programming a missile to arrive close to civilian areas.

Interesting articlein the Economist today about the Kurds and the Turks. Not only does it indicate that the US has had to promise Turkey 8.5 billion to stay out of North Iraq, but it also includes a history of the Turkish fight against the Kurds which is chilling in the numbers presented. The Bush admin can't even blow a country off the right way if it has to pay Turkey for f*ck-all.

The PKK’s separatist campaign, launched in 1984, took Turkey 15 years, 50,000 troops and about $8 billion a year of military costs to subdue.

DRFrank:

The breakout from Basra and Baghdad seems to be a coordinated counterattack. Allied helicopters are still grounded, last I heard, so picking off those columns is left to strikefighters and A-10s. I'm sure we can divert them wherever they are needed, including the Basra column if necessary.

It sounds like the British were giving hell to the Basra column - I can't imagine many made it through, but it's worth watching.

Ali, you want Iraq Body Count

The North Koreans are well aware the exercises are scheduled to end on April 2.

This is just more of their whining.

On Arab & Islamic press retractions, folks, remember,

it's a propaganda war!

Why should they retract something attributed to U.S. (or Israeli) military, and later proven wrong? Their opinion is, no matter who did it, it wouldn't have happened if we weren't there. They are trying to get us out.

If we don't have any Saddam WMD's to display for this, we are in deep doo-doo in the propaganda war.

(Remember Osama? He took it a few steps up from propaganda.)

Er, who in the US would be ultra-left, then, Haider, if Michael Moore isn't?

Remember, the US political spectrum is a bit to the right of the European spectrum. People who support universal healthcare (such as myself) are considered dangerously left in the US.

Pardon, bad HTML - thats iraqbodycount.net

In my nightmare version of this war (or one of them), during the fight for Najaf and Karabala, we hit the holy sites (shiite) and then gaurnatee every shiite (Iran etc...) joins the war. I do not think it would matter if it was hit by mistake.

If Micheal Moore is ultraleft in the US, than you have some serious problems with the political spectre

You could argue that Michael Moore got Bush elected with his support of Nader. Does that make him a conservative?

latest on the 10 casualties? were those from sunday or from retaking/taking bridges?

Re. Tomahawk accuracy:

Block III, with its improved accuracy and stand alone GPS guidance capability, was first used in the September 1995 Bosnia strike (Deliberate Force) and again in the September 1996 Iraq strike (Desert Strike). Success rates for both strikes were above 90%. In all, Tomahawks firing power showed a greater than 85% success rate.

from http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/bgm-109.htm

Er, who in the US would be ultra-left, then, Haider, if Michael Moore isn't?

Well that's the problem with the US, too far on the right. ;-) I consider Moore to be mainstream left (using our European standards).

This is just more of their whining.

Is it just me, or is NK like the spoiled brat in the corner saying "Pay attention to me!!"

Ali: "Are Iraqi soliders killing innocent Iraqis and blaming on to US? If yes, then how come this is not document thoroughly? "

This is kinda difficult when it's occuring behind enemy lines. It's not like you can send in an investigative squad to canvas the neighborhood and take statements. Reports like this, for now, can only come from observations made by front line troops (if in visual range) or, far more likely, from special ops who may have infilrated and area (usually for the purposes of providing forward air control, recon, etc). Also, things like this could be getting reported from people who are able to flee an area, make a phone call (if they have phones + service).

Either way, I see no way to reasonably expect "thorough documentation" until after an area is secured, local witnesses can be more freely interviewed on that matter, and forensic evidence can be gathered.

lb

Shawn, I think the US political spectrum is more than "a bit" to the right than the European; it's seriously slanted right, to where Otto von Bismarck's social programs would be considered near-communist on this side of the pond.

"treat Iraqi civilians, including women and children, as hostile"

Let the blanket demonising of all Iraqis begin.

For info on civilian casualties in Iraq, try http://www.iraqbodycount.org. They are scrutinizing media sources from around the world, and keeping minimum and maximum casualty tallies.

Photo and brief on the man partly responsible for coining the term 'shock and awe.'
http://www.csis.org/html/4ullman.htm

The marines . . . have new orders to treat Iraqi civilians, including women and children, as hostile, until proved otherwise.

Who knew it might come to this? Pretty much everyone outside the White House, I think.

I have a question I'd like a slightly educated response to.

In the middle of a sandstorm we lose a little bit of air cover, but our tanks and Bradleys are still superior on the ground due to their armor, and especially their higher range and punch. What I want to know is:

How much do 60mph winds affect accuracy, especially at the extended ranges where we have that advantage?

ZBH:

[
Owning the night is relative. Range is limited except for the most modern systems on
the M-1 and M-2, range is difficult for systems other than armor and the attack
helicopters, and no one owns the night in dust, rain, or short distance urban fighting.
]
http://www.csis.org/features/030325a_warnote.pdf

it depends on if you're using guided or unguided weapons, and the range. also, into or against the wind. if wind is steady, even that high, our battle computers can compensate and it doesnt affect it that much.
if the wind gusts, then unguided weapon accuracy getts !@#$%#@ badly. also the thing to remember is that the apaches can fly in this weather without too much of a problem, the military simply isnt willing to risk another accident. i'm thinking there is a reason beyond just the wind and sand that bubba aint flying.

On the stim issue:

Pharmaceutical Dexadrine is the most common stimilant given to combat troops. Fighter Jocks get the most, followed by long-distance pilots flying older planes (the kind you can't cat-nap in). As I recall, grunts have a small ration as part of their standard kit.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/020801-speed2.htm

That will open in a new window, BTW. If you want to be hip like me, throw a target="_blank" into your anchor tag.

From what i remember you CAN NOT fly apaches in sand storms due to the ingestion of sand into the rotors and engines. Sand + moving parts = junk. i would expect high altitude bombing and gps guided munitions to still work but i expect that inputing gps coordinates is difficult when you cant see your target.

Is it just me, or is NK like the spoiled brat in the corner saying "Pay attention to me!!

Maybe so, Foo, but remember... baby has nukes! And, just maybe (if even half the rumors are true) the capability to hit several western U.S. cities. To say nothing of the surety of a radioactive Tokyo, a decimated Seoul, and an overrun South Korea. While things aren't really all as bad as it seems in Iraq, with the reinforcements we are sending there now, there is no way in hell we could support two wars right now. Not without using our own weapons of mass destruction, such as tacnukes on the North Korean front and chemical weapons on the subsequent Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

Remember, the wind would affect the Iraqi operations as well. We have computers to compensate for factors like wind/rain/sand whereas the Iraqi tanks have to do this on their own as well. (Nevermind that our M1's could get off a shot or two at the Iraqi T72's before the T72's even could get a shot off.)

It's eminently possible for the Americans to retreat or otherwise harass the Iraqi advance until we can fully engage them. At that point, they would be dispersed totally.

The Basra force is more than likely scattered at this point. Full details will be arriving in the next several hours.

the apache can fly in air sanded and dusted up to 7 parts in a hundred. they were designed and tested here in arizona in actuall dust storms in YPG (yuma proving grounds, yuma being the city i was born in) that rival the ones in iraq during the worst of the wheather there. the LONGBOW can't fly in dust due to the miniaturization of the machinery

Thanks to all. This is the nicest blog I have encountered.

Now, regarding Ultra-left. Mike Moore is backward thinking. Perhaps, I did not mean to suggest that left is forward. Please see my simple/basic blog to know more about my views.

http://12oclock.blogspot.com

Ali Karim Bey

Thoth and Foo

NK actions are as natural as blowing your nose when you have a cold.
From the time GWB declared that Iraq, Iran and NK are the axis of evil and a week later started a campaign to wage war on the first one on the list then, to them it became clear.
After the first, he might decide to attack the second one or worse, change the order on the list and holy sh* my turn has come, I have to do something (anything) about it.
Sounds and IS so as simple as that!

"the apache can fly in air sanded and dusted up to 7 parts in a hundred."

That's astonishing.

I'd be more concerned of North Korea if I were the americans. They are doing everything exactly wrong, if they want to avoid conflict. Showing off military force at the same time as they are denying the NKs a diplomatic solution will eventually FORCE them to attack.

They don't have any choice, since their threat of an attack of South Korea is the only diplomatic bargaining chip they have. Humiliating people in those parts of the world is never really smart. Especially when the people you are humiliating have one of the worlds largest armies, and probably a few nukes too...

sorry, i goofed, 7 parts in a thousand.

On a sidenote the Bush administration seems to treat the rest of the world much in the same way as they treat the democratic party, trying to bully them into submission.

It doesn't seem to have dawned on them that the rest of the world isn't quite that spineless pushovers, and that the Republican party does not control the media in the rest of the world.

NPR is doing a phenomonal account of how a minor scrap of info about Basra crowds being fired on become a full-scale media event last night; their assertion being that the 24-hr news media cycle hasn't quite gotten this war reporting thing right. Perhaps a moment to reflect on this (agonist) being an important primary source for future historical analysis of the Second Gulf War.

Pedro,

Indeed, the NK reaction and every action thereafter has come naturally since Dubya proclaimed the "Axis of Evil." Such proclimation was, if not true to begin with (which I doubt) a self-fulfilling prophecy, as you can damn well bet if there was no Axis before the proclimation, there was one after! Bush's problem (well, actually, one of a great many) is that he has no subtlety. He telegraphed the invasions of Iraq, Iran, and NK way too early. These nations (as well as now, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, and yes, even our "allies," Saudi Arabia) now have nothing to lose by working together even more intensely. Same goes for Russia and China working with these smaller nations to resist America's efforts, as the more we get bogged down in the little fights, the less prepared we will be to take on the big guys (as eventually we must, if we are to fulfill the desires of the Neocon cabal that is actually in command.) I would not be surprised to see several Pakistani nuclear warheads atop Korean missiles launched from Syria (or even Saudi Arabia) launched at Dimona and Tel Nof in Israel, not to mention a large barrage of silkworms from Iran at our naval forces in the gulf. Possibly a nuke there, too, or more likely several EMP warheads, as we've tried to use against the Iraqi television station. But that won't happen until NK and China launch their attacks (though China might just bow out if we give them Taiwan and retreat from Iraq.)

Just some idle speculation...

re links

Yes 'live links' do use the bandwidth from this site for those that are wondering.

This is utter BS. You click on a link, your browser directly connects to that site. No agonist bandwidth involved from that point.
How can people make such bold statements, when they quite obviously don't know shit about the matter at hand?

Pardon my french, but I get a bit irritated when people mess up this simple technical fact stuff, while we're all at the same time have to deal with all this conflicting information/propaganda.
Same goes for folks who are so agitated about feeling they have the US military might behind them and go blabbering about infantry attacking with mustard gas. Sheesh.

Copy/Paste is better.

NO!
Long URLs (that's links) mess up the formatting of all postings in the comments window. And, as said above, don't make any difference whatsoever in term of bandwidth.

Sorry, had to vent. All this killing is making me cranky.

re links

Yes 'live links' do use the bandwidth from this site for those that are wondering.

This is utter BS. You click on a link, your browser directly connects to that site. No agonist bandwidth involved from that point.
How can people make such bold statements, when they quite obviously don't know shit about the matter at hand?

Pardon my french, but I get a bit irritated when people mess up this simple technical fact stuff, while we're all at the same time have to deal with all this conflicting information/propaganda.
Same goes for folks who get so agitated about feeling they have the US military might behind them and go blabbering about iraqi infantry attacking with mustard gas. Sheesh.

Copy/Paste is better.

NO!
Long URLs (that's links) mess up the formatting of all postings in the comments window. And, as said above, don't make any difference whatsoever in term of bandwidth.

Sorry, had to vent. All this killing is making me cranky.

The marines . . . have new orders to treat Iraqi civilians, including women and children, as hostile, until proved otherwise.

Oh, great. Here we go.
If civilians end up dead, they probably were VC - uh I mean "irregulars".

Now that may sound like a good idea from a security POV giving the circumstances, but how does that fit any longer into the whole "liberation" thing?

Weather links for Iraq:

satellite link
cute
picture weather
yahoo weather(more links)

send its all oil, guns, and money!

if the chemicals get busted out will the mother of all bombs be
put to use?

and civilians are gonna be killed nomatter what(freindly ornot) thats war get over it what do u think there useing pellet guns over there.

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